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Forth Fan Club

1 Name: Anonymous 2017-04-19 03:41
just a general thread for everything forth.

This was posted back on the previous progrider and it's a fantastic read.

Three Forths Make a Hole

There are many theories about the best way to program a computer – the ACE project showed just what can be done with Forth, especially in a situation which was constantly changing.

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33 Name: Anonymous 2017-11-30 19:41
pride comes before a fall
34 Name: Anonymous 2017-11-30 20:32
fall comes before a winter
35 Name: Anonymous 2017-12-04 05:07
fail comes before win
36 Name: Anonymous 2018-09-12 00:50

"I have yet to see a decent piece of software written in Forth. Let's face it. Forth stinks." --- John Dvorak, provocateur and columnist, InfoWorld, October 29, 1984.
"Forth is the first language which has been honed against the rock of experience before being cast into bronze." --- Charles Moore, inventor of Forth.

"Only brain-damaged programmers use Forth." --- Alan Holub, ex-C columnist, Dr. Dobb's Journal.

"Forth is like the T'ao; it is a Way, and is realized when followed. Its fragility is its strength; its simplicity is its direction." --- Michael Ham, ex-Forth columnist, Dr. Dobb's Journal.
37 Name: Anonymous 2018-09-19 20:18
Concatenative languages can have formal parameters just as non-concatenative languages can not have them.

what are you talking about?
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Goatfinger sucks

1 Name: 4 x13.net 2018-09-16 05:42
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2 Name: Anonymous 2018-09-19 02:36
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Emoji thread aka. fuck unicode

1 Name: Anonymous 2017-03-06 18:03
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151 Name: Anonymous 2018-09-02 01:08
got klined off rizon for this
152 Name: Anonymous 2018-09-05 20:16
153 Name: Anonymous 2018-09-06 08:11
154 Name: Anonymous 2018-09-13 01:19
what we need is emoji to be cloud synced. so they control it. meaning we can have seasonal ones, like a dab emoji but they only roll it out for a couple months then take it away.
155 Name: Anonymous 2018-09-17 21:14
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what is the point of life ?

1 Name: Anonymous 2018-09-01 21:48
going through a rough existential crisis.
2 Name: Anonymous 2018-09-01 23:20
What ever you make it. Just try to do something you want to do. You might not even succeed but the point is to have a goal and to try.
3 Name: Anonymous 2018-09-13 15:08
gvr sayeth "hmmm how can i improve python? OH! Make it so all existing code stops working and there's 2 incompatable versions both called python."
4 Name: Anonymous 2018-09-15 23:56
dont use python2 you fucking idiot.

Python3 is almost 10 years old.
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1 Name: Anonymous 2018-09-05 06:14
2 Name: Anonymous 2018-09-12 19:46
Are women better coders than men? When a study of 1.4 million GitHub users said yes, it made headlines across the web. The story was so popular that if you’ve Googled anything about women and code in the past month and a half, it probably filled up the entire first page of search results. “Female coders are rated more highly than men — except when people know they’re women,”
3 Name: Anonymous 2018-09-13 07:13
"Female" as in "lonely virgin obsessed with programming, that "transitioned" as he became prison gay" or "Female" as in "born with a vagina"?
4 Name: Anonymous 2018-09-14 23:21
prison straight
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1 Name: Anonymous 2018-09-13 15:31

The Day of the Programmer is an international professional day that is celebrated on the 256th (hexadecimal 100th, or the 28th) day of each year (September 13 during common years and on September 12 in leap years). It is officially recognized in Russia.[1][2]

The number 256 (28) was chosen because it is the number of distinct values that can be represented with an eight-bit byte, a value well-known to programmers. 256 is also the highest power of two that is less than 365, the number of days in a common year.
2 Name: Anonymous 2018-09-13 17:19
cool. now im going to code another javascript game in order to celebrate this day in style.
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Cirno Radio / chiru.no

1 Name: Anonymous 2017-10-13 19:19
What are your thoughts on this amazing piece of open source software?

yes, this is programming related
2 Name: Anonymous 2017-10-26 01:45
What kind of retarded shit was that? The only thing I got out of that was some kind of music player. What the fuck.
3 Name: Anonymous 2018-08-21 17:17
4 Name: Anonymous 2018-08-22 03:21
their twitter is filled with steaming shit
5 Name: Anonymous 2018-09-01 23:26
6 Name: Anonymous 2018-09-01 23:26
You can go to https://tunein.com/radio/chiruno-s275730/ and listen to the stream there without hosting your own.
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1 Name: Anonymous 2018-07-05 11:32
Unix is bad. Unix it shit man, yes. Here, Here look at this

This is a quote this is a real motherfucking block of words. Yeah man, this is a REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAL QUOTE FUCK YEAH BABY.

This is a line.

This is another paragraph. Wow, really good. Nice paragraph. Yeah man. Words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words. words words words? words words...

words words words.

And yeah, I forgot to tell you about unix.


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2 Name: Anonymous 2018-07-11 10:24
OP is shit.
3 Name: Anonymous 2018-07-25 18:51
4 Name: Anonymous 2018-08-02 15:03
What do you propose we do then? Start using BeOS?
5 Name: Anonymous 2018-08-24 02:48
6 Name: Anonymous 2018-09-01 21:39
I agree. Unix is shit. Linux is better, but overall Kernel NT is the best....
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Dire Situation

1 Name: Anonymous 2018-08-13 21:10
Hello programmers!

Here is my situation... I am currently learning Java for Android programming but it is causing me many headaches. I want to make stupid simple games for stupid simple people so that I can make some money. But the problem is that I realize that I am quite stupid myself. I can't seem to wrap my head around programming for Android if I try it causes headaches. On top of that I get distracted easily.

I am not a complete noob programmer though. I started with C and I enjoy it very much but I need to make some money since my current living situation (my mother and father) is going down the toilet that's why I decided to go with Java and Android but I realize now that that might not be a good idea after all for me.

So, I am wondering if I should continue on learning Java and Android or should I stick with C and Allegro to make a game. The end goal is money basically. I hold the thought that Android would be easy money but I might be wrong. Right now I am considering dropping Java and Android and resume making my game in C with Allegro.
2 Name: Anonymous 2018-08-14 02:55
I don't know how you can use Allegro and C for Android if you don't even understand how to use the Android API in Java. I will predict that you are simply not educated enough to do any kind of Android programming.
3 Name: Anonymous 2018-08-14 03:43
I won't be building for Android if I am using Allegro. I'll be making it for windows and linux only. The reason why I even dabbled in Android development was that I thought it would be a easy way to make money clearly that wasn't the case for me. I've decided already to just continue making my game in C with Allegro and release it for windows and linux when it's finished.

Is it just me or does Java make things too complex? I don't know that was my first time programming in a Object Oriented language and it was not my cup of tea at all. Maybe I'll go back to it when my life is more stable.

My highest education is High School. I have autism and severe social anxiety. But still I need to make an income soon because my parents are not going to tolerate me for long.
4 Name: Anonymous 2018-08-18 06:53
So we have two main issues here: your social skills and your living situation with your parents.

You are starting your life and you have to live the rest of your life somewhere. If you're capable of living off the land as a wild man, then you don't need social skills as you're capable of surviving without any help of people. I'm assuming that you want to live in modern society with modern conveniences; so if you intend to live in society, then you must interact with society. My advice is that you need professional help with your social skills and with the management of your mental condition. The best way to change yourself is to learn directly from a professional who is trained to deal with your kind of mentality i.e. a clinical psychologist.

I don't know what kind of social services are available for you that offer this kind of rehabilitation within your country; I'll assume that this ideal option is not available for you. The next best advice is to train yourself with lessons taught indirectly from the professionals. You can find many kinds of lessons about self-improvement on the Internet and also within paper books. Here are the topics you should study in no particular order:

habits - how they work, how to change bad habits and how to consciously train good habits;
accepting mistakes, identifying them and learning from mistakes;
the art of introspection and the art of consciously controlling your emotions;
physical education and learning how to improve your fitness;
body communication - the art of interpreting the meaning of a person's structure and movements;
the science of autism - learn the characteristics of your specific disorder (there is a spectrum of neurodevelopmental disorders) and how it compares to a healthy neurotypical person

I know the range topics are wide, but these are topics that most people learn unconsciously. Since you have a disorder in your mental development, you will need to learn these topics consciously and you will need to practice them consciously. Make no mistake, these are skills that take years of practice so I recommend starting sooner rather than later.

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5 Name: Anonymous 2018-08-21 02:20
Thanks for writing that it means a lot. I was offline working on the game. I do want to see a psychologist but we can't afford it. I realize long ago that my mental problems are a big obstacle for me but I have laid out a plan already. I have thought through this plan many times. The plan is basically to become financially secure. Once I achieve financial success I can start the process of reintegrating myself into normal society.

The problem right now that is of pressing concern is my parents. My father hates me because I am a failure. My mother is usually neutral but sometimes sides with my father. They like to point out that they have raised me but I have given them nothing in return. It angers me greatly because I never asked them to create me with their inferior low quality genes. But they refuse to entertain that thought. For them it's all about me me me me me.

My well being right now lies on my ability to make money. If I can earn some money however small from my game(s) then the immediate effect would be a boost in my confidence. If I can continue to earn more and more money then the short term effect would be my parents getting off my back since I can then give them the money. Now the biggest IF would be that I somehow out of sheer luck achieve financial success then I can move out and begin the process of reintegrating into normal society.

It feels like a dream, a dream that I can never make into reality. But I may as well try, if it all ends badly then I will still have the choice of committing suicide.

Thanks again for replying.
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What's your programmer name?

1 Name: Anonymous 2017-03-23 03:42
This thread is on the merits and shortcomings of releasing software anonymously or pseudonymously versus using your real name. The only benefit I can think of with using your real name is if you want to get a job or use your open source project at work and be able to show your boss and earn some points towards that raise. Everywhere else, using a secret identity seems to be preferable.

Is there anyway to get the benefits of both? Thoughts?
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26 Name: Anonymous 2018-08-02 21:40
27 Name: Anonymous 2018-08-04 08:33
Fuck you, leather man.
28 Name: Anonymous 2018-08-04 13:58
29 Name: Anonymous 2018-08-10 21:49
30 Name: Anonymous 2018-08-11 17:16
Hitch Rickey
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